[Paizo] ACG - Slashing Grace should require Weapon Focus

Description

Slashing Grace feat (ACG p.156) pre-req are Dex 13, Weapon Finesse , and Weapon Focus (chosen weapon).

I created a Swashbuckler, and Swashbuckler Finesse correctly provides Weapon Finesse requirements, but...
the Feat is shown in pre-req tree hanging off Weapon Finesse, but is black (enabled), and I could add it, without adding the required Weapon Focus first.

Environment

Pathfinder Core + ACG

Activity

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Andrew Maitland
July 18, 2015, 3:14 PM

Restricts choice to:
WEAPON FOCUS Choice that is TYPE=Melee,TYPE=Slashing,WIELD=OneHanded

ASPECT now displays the weapon.

Saxum Caribetum
July 17, 2015, 1:49 PM

to be fair, I did in the original Jira Description, quote that the Pre-req is "Weapon Focus (chosen weapon)". I assumed that was enough to be clear that it applied to a specific weapon, and was a specific intent.

Whether it is straightforward to limit the kind of weapon that you have focus with - I don't know the innards of PCGen well enough to know if X is easy or not.
To satisfy the class feature at a basic level, it ought to offer a chooser of thing-you-have-in-focus.

I can see from how you describe the problem that restricting it to a one-handed slashing weapon as well is more complicated than is worth it. (My point: without knowing the implementation, you might be able to take the intersection of 2 qualities.)

Output block... OK I should not have mentioned it "in passing". Sorry.

From the way you are talking about Slashing Grace you might bear DATA-2488 in mind: it looks like Slashing Grace is not handling the whole choice bit very well. (DATA-2488 says SG(Scimitar) adds "Dex-to-hit" to all 1H slashing weapons)

Andrew Maitland
July 17, 2015, 10:12 AM

Hi ,

Some notes here:
Each issue should be specific in intent. This one came across as requesting the missing "weapon focus" prereq. Once that goal was met, this issue got closed as resolved. I bring this up cause my tracker folder is filled with multiple issues resolved that have been re-opened, but not for the original issue in all cases, but follow up issues related but not the same. In the industry we call these "moving targets". Or if you want an analogy, it's like asking for a Cheese Pizza, getting that, then saying you wanted sausage and peppers included as well.

Tacking new problems in the same tracker muddies the water here. If you have new issues, please open new trackers.

This tracker has 2 distinctively new "issues". Those are now asking for some very complicated items:

1) CHOOSERS, refined though they may be, can be a pain to get down to that level of focus. But you now want a feature to narrow the choice to allowed based upon the Weapon Focus included in the criteria. Separate Issue. (Adding Weapon Focus to the Feat requirements is not the same as including it into the CHOOSE criteria)

2) Output block is a whole other bucket of worms... loads upon loads of nasty ravenous worms... I'm talking that I might just put your attack bonus and damage changes in the Combat Bonus section of the sheet and call it a day, cause altering those blocks is not easy.

Saxum Caribetum
July 17, 2015, 2:50 AM

OK:
so if I do not have any Weapon Focus, then I can't select Slashing Grace.

However, if I have Weapon Focus(Scimitar), I can select Slashing Grace(Longsword), which is wrong.
I should be restricted to the list of things-with-weapon-focus.
(We have something like this in the Elemental Focus tree)

Saxum Caribetum
July 17, 2015, 2:50 AM

Swash with Weapon Focus (Scimitar) - try adding Slashing Grace - you see all weapons.

Pre-req: Dex 13, Weapon Finesse (*or equivalent), Weapon Focus with chosen weapon.

Benefit: Choose one kind of a one-handed slashing weapon ... when wielding your chosen weapon one-handed, ...

So:

  • you need weapon focus (X)

  • X must be one-handed slashing

  • includes some 2-handed weapons if you qualify: e.g. Exotic Weapon (Bastard Sword) lets you wield it one-handed.

  • If output block shows both 1-H and 2-H, then the Slashing Grace only applies to the 1-H (much like the quirks on the rapier weapon)

Fixed

Assignee

Andrew Maitland

Reporter

Saxum Caribetum

Source Books

Pathfinder (Specify)

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