Pathfinder Sorcerer Bloodline spells incorrectly counted in Known limit


Possibly a regression or related to closed bug At least, that was the closest I could find searching on Jira for this issue.

Steps to reproduce:

Create a new human Sorcerer with Elemental (water) bloodline. Add spells for levels 1 and 2, all works fine. Add level 3, and the "Bloodline spell" (in this case, 'Burning Hands (cold)') is automatically added to the "known spells" list (correctly) but it counts against the Sorcerer Known Spells Limit (4) of first level spells. (incorrect).

From the SRD section on Bloodlines:
"At 3rd level, and every two levels thereafter, a sorcerer learns an additional spell, derived from her bloodline. These spells are in addition to the number of spells given on Table: Sorcerer Spells Known. These spells cannot be exchanged for different spells at higher levels."

Emphasis mine.


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Andrew Maitland
December 13, 2015, 3:36 AM

Thanks for the update. The "bug" is a difference in format coding and cannot be corrected. It prompts the user to fix and you should see a pool on the summary that requires a selection. 
You should be able to cancel this bug though. Thanks,Andrew

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On Saturday, December 12, 2015, 1:10 PM, JIRA (for Jesse Mundis ) <> wrote:



Confirmed. This bug, as reported against version 6.04.01 is resolved in 6.05.06 and can be closed.

Not sure if the error in opening the 6.04.01 character (attached) in 6.05.06 for the Elemental Cold bloodline feat needs its own bug or not. But this bug can be closed.








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Geoffrey Depew
August 26, 2017, 9:01 PM

Working in 6.07.03 and having this happen. Attempting to add another spell throws the error "You can only learn 4 spells for level 1 and there are no higher-level spell slots available".

I know this is an Alpha release and this may not make it to production, but I felt I should reopen to make sure it is checked.

Andrew Maitland
August 27, 2017, 2:10 AM

Details please - give me the facts to prove there is a problem that I can reproduce.

What race, class level, sets loaded. (A copy of a character to load that shows the issue is best).

Geoffrey Depew
August 27, 2017, 11:36 AM

Drow ninja 2 / Sorcerer (Starsoul bloodline) 2; character attached now.

In Spells it shows Unseen Servant, the 1st level Starsoul bonus spell, and trying to add a spell fails, saying there's already 4 there.

Andrew Maitland
September 2, 2017, 3:11 AM

No bug, working properly.

Sorcerer Level 2 only gets 2 known spells; the bonus would bump that to 3.

The other character is Ninja 2, Sorcerer 3, which has 3 known + 1 for the Bonus. Your character correctly shows 4 spells as allowed. This is working correctly.


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