Magus - Magical Lineage - Intensified Spell Feat - not working properly


I chose Trait Magical Lineage Shocking Grasp at level 1. It reduces spell level by 1 when applying metamagic feats. From Traits "When you apply metamagic feats to Shocking Grasp, treat its actual level as 1 lower for determining the spell's final adjusted level."

At level 7 I chose feat metamagic Intensified Spell feat, it increases spell level by 1

In Spells when selecting prepared spells level 1 Shocking Grasp and 'Add Spell with Metamagic Feats' Intensified Spell and then checking right hand side it shows as a level 2 spell

It should list as a level 1 spell. 1 + 1 - 1 = 1

Also the metamagic is not increasing the damage dice in the spell description




Andrew Maitland
March 16, 2016, 4:14 PM


The only thing that I am aware should happen is adjusting the Spell Level. To my knowledge, no metamagic has any mechanic in place to alter the actual contents of the spells. That is currently beyond the system. Though it may be possible once the system is converted to the replacement parser.

The spell level is definitely an issue that we can investigate.

Andrew Maitland
March 16, 2016, 4:45 PM

When you apply the metamagic, are you also selecting the Magical Trait metamagic? Is it visible to be selected?

Gregory Batchelor
March 16, 2016, 7:09 PM

Only Intensified Spell shows in the list of metamagic feats

I have attached a new screenshot that shows what is available when I click on "Add Spell with Metamagic Feats", also a screenshot that shows the Trait screen

I have only 1 Metamagic feat 'Intensified Spell' and 1 magic Trait 'Magical Lineage'.

Andrew Maitland
March 16, 2016, 7:18 PM

Yeah, I did the testing. In the fixed version, you will see the magical lineage as a choice. Apply both and the results come out correctly. Do you know how to grab the autobuild? That should have the update in 24 hours.

The intensify change is going to require a a major intervention by the code team. Even with the formula system changes, the fact the effect ONLY happens if you are using the metamagic, I have no mechanic to address that.

I would need to have something like a TEMPBONUS that only impacts the spell itself. With the work already in scope, I am not sure asking for this change would net anything for the next year. It is worthwhile, do not misunderstand, but I have a lot of higher priority items that have to be completed first.


Gregory Batchelor
March 16, 2016, 8:14 PM

yes and thank you


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