Hexcrafter Magus cannot pick a Witch Hex at Level 3


A Hexcrafter Magus at level 3 unlocks the access to Magus Arcana. Because of Hex Arcana, he can elect to pick a Witch Hex instead of an Arcana. PCGen does not allow me to pick a Witch Hex at level 3. The "arcana" Gain Witch Hex does not show up until level 4 where you now get a free Hex for trading out Spell Recall. So in reality, you can get a Hex at level 3(Hex Arcana) and another free Hex at level 4 (Hex Magus). If warranted, you could get 2 Hexes at level 3 by using an arcana slot and spending a feat for an Extra Arcana. Therefor at level 4 you could have 3 Hexes.

Gain Witch Hex states Requirements: all of ( var: WitchHexAbilityLVL at least 1, var: WitchHexAllowed at least 1 )

I don't know much about variable names but it should be related to being a Hexcrafter Magus the ability to get arcanas i.e. level 3.

Hex Arcana: A hexcrafter gains access to the following magus arcana, or may select any witch hex in place of a magus arcana. At 12th level, the hexcrafter may select a hex or major hex in place of a magus arcana. At 18th level, a hexcrafter can select a hex, major hex, or grand hex in place of a magus arcana. He cannot select any hex or arcana more than once.

Accursed Strike (Sp): A hexcrafter magus who can cast bestow curse, major curse, or any spell with the curse descriptor can deliver these prepared spells using the spellstrike ability, even if the spells are not touch attack spells.

Hex Magus (Su): At 4th level, the hexcrafter magus gains access to a small number of witch’s hexes. The hexcrafter magus picks one hex from the witch’s hex class feature. He gains the benefit of or uses that hex as if he were a witch of a level equal to his magus level. This feature replaces spell recall.

1) Create a level 3 Hexcrafter Magus
2) Try and get a witch hex instead of an arcana
3) You CAN'T get a witch hex [Gain Witch Hex]
4) Level up Hexcrafter Magus to level 4
5) You can now have [Gain Witch Hex] in the arcana list AND get a free Hex for trading out Spell Recall
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Andrew Maitland
May 1, 2019, 3:59 AM

Okay, you’ve convinced me with your logic.

April 29, 2019, 3:28 PM

But Hex arcana specifically states that you “may select any witch hex in place of a magus arcana.” The Magus gets access to his arcanas at level 3. Therefore you can interpret that you can gain a Witch Hex at level 3. You can then intepret that the Magus gets a “free” hex at level 4 for the cost of spell recall. So he could get a hex at levels 3, 4, 6, 9, 12, 15, and 18. And while not official, I have read several posts and guides mentioning getting a hex at level 3.

Andrew Maitland
April 26, 2019, 4:05 AM

Working as written.

Andrew Maitland
April 26, 2019, 4:05 AM

So, you cannot gain a Witch Hex at level 3. But the Archetype doesn’t grant this ability till Level 4, so as far as I can see, this is working as written.



March 19, 2019, 5:55 AM

It looks like my issue was resolved before in another issue.


So either I am blind and dumb or something went wrong from this old version to the latest version. Also I don’t know if this matters or not but in my attached character sheet I loaded all sources cause I am crazy but I retried it again with only Core Supplements and I still have the problem.

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