[PF] Class Abilities/Special Abilities list in "Feats and Abilities"->"Class Abilities"


Within the archetypes system, one can view all racial traits of a character under "Racial Abilities". It'd be really handy to have a listing of all class features/Special Abilities and their current rankings/levels/bonuses/etc, under "Feats and Abilities" -> "Class Abilities". Usually "Class Abilities" is only available if the class gains an ability that requires a selection, like Rogue Talents. But for things like "Sneak Attack" and such, it'd be nice to have a place to view it and see what level its at, etc.




Brad Kester
September 4, 2012, 9:11 AM

Also, why do you say "that only applies to the select few races that are granted any such traits"? Did you mean classes? Since this is class related?

Andrew Maitland
September 4, 2012, 9:58 AM

Your earlier reference to seeing the Race Stuff / Archetype stuff. Each Class Archetype AND Racial Trait required lots of man hours to get the display we enjoy and use today (Most of it logged by myself). The Racial Traits you see are all coded in by hand to give you the view. Swappable items are the name of the game. To get those items to populate required special Coding, on top of the fact they needed to be swapped out easily.

In order to 'show' all those abilities, would require a Massive rewrite of every single ability. You need to shove it into a user pool. All instances of 'ABILITY:Special Ability|AUTOMATIC|x' would have to be changed to 'ABILITY:Another Pool Name|AUTOMATIC|x'

That is a lot of effort, prone to causing a bug or three if not monitored carefully, just to display something in the tabs where we have users select items. And you can't do a blind rewrite as certain abilities shouldn't be displayed. Having essentially a Read Only Pool seems a bit overboard - the effort to do that takes away from another project or bug fix, like say Ultimate Combat isn't getting attention while I investigate each bug. Now, you've mentioned that Sneak Attack isn't displaying it's Value, that can be rectified fairly easy. Just open a JIRA and I can fix it. Takes all of 2 minutes.

Brad Kester
September 4, 2012, 10:54 AM

Thank you for the description. Being a programmer in "real life", I know all too well how one "little" feature can appear to be quite simple on the surface and an intricate mess at its core. Well, maybe this is something that can be put into the "maybe one day when I'm bored I'll get started on this" kind of thing. I'd rather you were able to spend your time on things that help the gaming community overall, UC a good example.

As to opening a Jira, I'll investigate a little more before doing so. I want to make sure the issue isn't a little more global. I think maybe the character sheet preview is overall displaying the simpler/shorter descriptions for the special abilities, but haven't verified that yet.

Andrew Maitland
November 13, 2012, 8:37 AM

I've added the Sneak Attack information to the Pathfinder Description for you.

Andrew Maitland
November 19, 2012, 4:50 AM

Core Classes
Ultimate Combat
Ultimate Magic
Anything else will need a new tracker and the sets specifically requested.



Andrew Maitland


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